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Re: group connected with Illinois racist killings in HIGH WIERDNESS BY MAIL

From: i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan Stang) Newsgroups: alt.slack Subject: Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 09:35:43 -0400 Organization: The SubGenius Foundation, Inc.

In article <3783cc48.9152830@nnrp.gol.com>, shinpath@gol.com wrote:

It's on page 198 in the chapter "Groups You love to Hate" The name changed to something like Church of the Creator but the tell-tale W for white with a crown and a halo over it is still there.
A chance for Stang to go on air and say "we told you so?"

The guy who founded Church of the Creator, Ben Klassen of Florida, has been dead for several years now, but his awful legacy certainly does seem to live on, at the expense of others.

Here's a litle annecdote for ya.

About 6 months after High Weirdness came out, I (or rather my kook-watching fake name) got an issue of their newsletter reprinting the insulting things I had said about them, and urging "local Dallas boot-boys" to ferret out where "the Jew Stang" lived and "remind him of what some of our other readers did to a certain other obnoxious Jew talk show host in Denver." There was a lot of ranting also about the "Jew publishers Simon and Schuster." I didn't worry much about it because most of these racist groups are pure hot air.

Then, a few months later, I learned that good old Bob Black, the "anarchist-on-welfare" who is now best known for falsely narcing Jim Hogshire and half-ruining his life, for nothing, had SENT MY "HUMAN" NAME AND ADDRESS to all the white supremacist groups that I had lambasted in my book. Black was very upset because his girlfriend had dumped him for a SubGenius (Nenslo).

I didn't like the idea of The Church of the Creator knowing where the Jew Stang's wife and kids were, so I called the FBI. They said, "Well, we can't do much until they've already killed you," and I said I understood, and helped their Dallas office fill out their files on the Church of the SubGenius (just for future reference). In theory, the Dallas FBI knows we are just a silly harmless joke, huh huh -- although the CLEVELAND FBI office last year tried to "WARN" the Sherman, NY sherriff about this "UFO suicide devil cult" that was about to commit horrible crimes at Brushwood in 98.

This isn't the first time that Church of the Creator followers have committed race-hate murders. There were two others that I can think of offhand, I think in North Carolina.

The funny thing is, I'm not even Jewish, in fact I'm probably distantly RELATED to the deep South rednecks that started this shit.

-- Copyright 1998 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc. PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB http://www.subgenius.com -- SubSITE of Slack

From: shinpath@gol.com (SPLR Ministries, Western Japan)

<snip> thanx, I remember when that story back when it happened, but it was that creepy little crown with the W and the halo that jogged my memory.

Hope XX day kicked ass, wish I'd been there. I fly to US on July 10, but there is no way I can miss July 5 here, it's midterms.

guess I'llhave to buy the video, sigh....

Date: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:25:58 -0400 From: "König PrüBe, GmbH" <Landschutz@Bavaria.com>

Rev. Ivan Stang wrote:
>

>
> The funny thing is, I'm not even Jewish, in fact I'm probably distantly
> RELATED to the deep South rednecks that started this shit.
>

See? What goes around comes around.

That whacko WCotC guy was named Smith, too...

Coincidence? I think not!

Funny, you don't *look" J*wish!

From: pnarco@worldnet.REMOVETHIS.att.net (Phinny)

On Wed, 07 Jul 1999 15:25:58 -0400, "König PrüBe, GmbH" <Landschutz@Bavaria.com> wrote:

>
> Funny, you don't *look" J*wish!

"Bob" might be Jewish though. You just can't see the yarmulke cuz of
the angle.

-=-Phineas Narco
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From: i.stang@subgenius.com (Rev. Ivan Stang)

The probably ACTUAL BIOLOGICAL father of Dobbs was almost certainly that Wandering Milkman, who, legend has it, was indeed Jewish. This may be apocryphal. DNA tests have been done, but are classified.

-- Copyright 1999 by Rev. Ivan Stang / 1st Orthodox Stangian MegaFisTemple Lodge of People's Covenant Church of the Wrath of Dobbs Yeti, Resurrected / The SubGenius Foundation,Inc. PO Box 140306 Dallas TX 75214 / Fax 214-320-1561 / PRABOB http://www.subgenius.com -- SubSITE of Slack

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